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07 December 2006 President Bush Meets with British Prime Minister Tony Blair
11:05 A.M. EST
PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you all. Please be seated. I just had a good
visit with Prime Minister Tony Blair. I appreciate you coming back, Mr.
Prime Minister. I always enjoy our discussions, and I appreciate your
clear view that we are confronted with a struggle between moderation and
extremism. And this is particularly evident in the broader Middle East.
 President George W. Bush responds to a question during a joint news conference with British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Thursday, Dec. 7, 2006, in the Dwight D. Eisenhower Executive Office Building.
I talked about my recent trip to Jordan, where I talked to Prime
Minister Maliki. I briefed the Prime Minister on my visit with His
Eminence, Mr. Hakim, one of the major political players in Iraq. We
discussed the report I received yesterday from the Iraq Study Group, a
report chaired by Secretary of State -- former Secretary of State James
Baker and former Congressman Lee Hamilton. I told the Prime Minister I
thought this was a very constructive report. I appreciated the fact
that they laid out a series of recommendations, and they're worthy of
serious study. I also updated the Prime Minister on the reviews that
are being conducted by the Pentagon and the State Department and our
National Security Council. I talked to him about the consultations I'm
having with the United States Congress.
We agree that victory in Iraq is important; it's important for the Iraqi
people, it's important for the security of the United States and Great
Britain, and it's important for the civilized world. We agree that an
Iraq that can govern itself, defend itself and sustain itself as an ally
on the war on terror is a noble goal. The Prime Minister and I seek a
wide range of opinions about how to go forward in Iraq, and I appreciate
your opinions and your advice.
The increase in sectarian attacks we're seeing in and around Baghdad are
unsettling. It has led to much debate in both our countries about the
nature of the war that is taking place in Iraq. And it is true that
Sunni and Shia extremists are targeting each other's innocent civilians
and engaging in brutal reprisals. It's also true that forces beyond
Iraq's borders contribute to this violence. And the Prime Minister put
it this way, he said, "The violence is not an accident or a result of
faulty planning. It is a deliberate strategy. It is the direct result
of outside extremists teaming up with internal extremists -- al Qaeda
with the Sunni insurgents, and Iran with the Shia militia -- to foment
hatred and to throttle, at birth, the possibility of a non-sectarian
democracy." You were right, and I appreciate your comments.
The primary victims of the sectarian violence are the moderate majority
of Iraqis -- Sunni and Shia alike -- who want a future of peace. The
primary beneficiaries are Sunni and Shia extremists, inside and outside
of Iraq, who want chaos in that country so they can take control and
further their ambitions to dominate the region.
These Sunni and Shia extremists have important differences, yet they
agree on one thing: the rise of free and democratic societies in the
Middle East where people can practice their faith, choose their leaders,
and live together in peace would be a decisive blow to their cause.
And so they're supporting extremists across the region who are working
to undermine young democracies. Just think about the Middle East. In
Iraq, they support terrorists and death squads who are fomenting
sectarian violence in an effort to bring down the elected government of
Prime Minister Maliki. In Lebanon, they're supporting Hezbollah, which
recently declared its intention to force the collapse of Prime Minister
Siniora's democratically-elected parliament and government. In
Afghanistan, they're supporting remnants of the Taliban that are seeking
to destabilize President Karzai's government and regain power. In the
Palestinian Territories, they are working to stop moderate leaders like
President Abbas from making progress toward the vision of two democratic
states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side in peace and security.
In each of these places, radicals and extremists are using terror to
stop the spread of freedom. And they do so because they want to spread
their ideologies -- their ideologies of hate -- and impose their rule on
this vital part of the world. And should they succeed, history will
look back on our time with unforgiving clarity and demand to know, what
happened? How come free nations did not act to preserve the peace?
Prime Minister Blair and I understand that we have a responsibility to
lead and to support moderates and reformers who work for change across
the broader Middle East. We also recognize that meeting this
responsibility requires action. We will take concerted efforts to
advance the cause of peace in the Middle East. Prime Minister Blair
informed me that he will be heading to the Middle East soon to talk to
both the Israelis and the Palestinians. And I support that mission. I
support the mission because it's important for us to advance the cause
of two states living side by side in peace, and helping both parties
eliminate the obstacles that prevent an agreement from being reached.
And your strong leadership on this issue matters a lot.
We'll support the democratic government of Prime Minister Maliki as he makes difficult decisions and confronts the forces of terror and extremism that are working hard to tear his country apart.
Britain and America are old allies, and the Prime Minister and I are
strong friends. But Britain and America aren't standing together in
this war because of friendship. We're standing together because our two
nations face an unprecedented threat to civilization. We're standing
together to prevent terrorists and extremists from dominating the Middle
East. We stand together to prevent extremists from regaining the safe
haven they lost in Afghanistan, a safe haven from which they launched
attacks that killed thousands of our citizens.
We stand together because we understand the only way to secure a lasting
peace for our children and grandchildren is to defeat the extremist
ideologies and help the ideology of hope, democracy, prevail. We know
the only way to secure peace for ourselves is to help millions of moms
and dads across the Middle East build what our citizens already have:
societies based on liberty that will allow their children to grow up in
peace and opportunity.
It's a tough time. And it's a difficult moment for America and Great
Britain. And the task before us is daunting. Yet our nations have
stood before in difficult moments. Sixty-five years ago this day,
America was jolted out of our isolationism and plunged into a global war
that Britain had been fighting for two years. In that war, our nation
stood firm. And there were difficult moments during that war, yet the
leaders of our two nations never lost faith in the capacity to prevail.
We will stand firm again in this first war of the 21st century. We will
defeat the extremists and the radicals. We will help a young democracy
prevail in Iraq. And in so doing, we will secure freedom and peace for
millions, including our own citizens.
Mr. Prime Minister, welcome.
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: Thank you very much, Mr. President, and thank
you, firstly, for stressing again the strength of the relationship
between our two countries, which is important for us, but I think it's
important for the wider global community, as well. Thank you also for
the clarity of your vision about the mission that we're engaged in at
the moment, which is a struggle between freedom and democracy on the one
hand, and terrorism and sectarianism on the other. And it's a noble
mission, and it's the right mission, and it's important for our world
that it succeeds.
And so the question is, how do we make sure that it does, indeed,
succeed? And in respect of Iraq, I, like you, welcome the
Baker-Hamilton study group. It offers a strong way forward. I think it
is important now we concentrate on the elements that are necessary to
make sure that we succeed, because the consequences of failure are
severe. And I believe this is a mission we have to succeed in and we
can succeed in.
And I think there are three elements that we can take forward. The
first is to make sure that we are supporting the Maliki government in
making sure that that government's non-sectarian nature is reflected in
the policies of that government and the way that it conducts itself. I
think in respect of governance and security and capability --
particularly economic capability -- there is much that we are doing, but
can do even more in order to make sure that they are supported in the
vital work that they do, and in the work of reconciliation, in bringing
the different parts of Iraq together in order to give effect to the will
of the Iraqi people, expressed in their democratic election.
I think, secondly, it's important that all of us who are engaged in
this, but particularly those in the region, live up to their
responsibilities in supporting the Maliki government, in ensuring that
Iraq is able to proceed in a democratic and non-sectarian way.
And I think that, finally, as you rightly emphasize, it is important
that we do everything we can in the wider Middle East to bring about
peace between Israel and the Palestinians. This is something that I
know you feel deeply and passionately about; you are the first President
who committed yourself to the two state solution. And I believe that by
moving this forward we send a very strong signal not just to the region,
but to the whole of the world that we are evenhanded and just in the
application of our values, that we want to see an Israel confident of
its security and a Palestinian people able to live in peace and justice
and democracy.
And that brings me back, finally, to the point that I began with,
because I think it is the central point -- yes, it is immensely tough at
the moment and very challenging, and everybody knows that. But there
are only two ways that the Middle East can go. Its people can either be
presented with a choice between a secular or a religious dictatorship,
which is not a choice that any free people would ever choose, or
alternatively, they can enjoy the same possibilities of democracy that
we hold dear in our countries. And this is not a view that we hold -- I
hold because of idealism alone. It is because I also believe that the
only realistic path to security is by ensuring the spread of liberty.
So, Mr. President, thank you again for welcoming me here, and we will
work closely with you in the time to come in order to achieve the
mission we have set ourselves.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you, sir. Thank you. We'll answer a couple of
questions.
Q Mr. President and Mr. Prime Minister, neither of you has shown much
doubt about your Iraq policies. Do you acknowledge that your approach
has failed, as Baker-Hamilton suggests? And are you willing to engage
directly with Syria and Iran and pull out most combat forces by early
2008, unless there's unexpected circumstances?
PRESIDENT BUSH: The thing I liked about the Baker-Hamilton report is it
discussed the way forward in Iraq. And I believe we need a new
approach. And that's why I've tasked the Pentagon to analyze the way
forward. That's why Prime Minister Blair is here to talk about the way
forward, so we can achieve the objective, which is an Iraq which can
govern itself, sustain itself, and defend itself, and be an ally in the
war on terror.
And the Baker-Hamilton report did some very interesting things. First,
it shows that Republicans and Democrats can work together to achieve --
to come up with a strategy to achieve an objective, something the
American people don't think is possible to happen. In other words,
they've seen elections, and they saw all the bitterness and
finger-pointing and name-calling and wonder whether or not we can work
together on this important cause. And I believe we can. And the
Baker-Hamilton commission showed it's possible for people of goodwill to
sit down at the table and design a way forward.
And so that's why I'm sitting down with the members of Congress to say
to both Republicans and Democrats, this is an important cause. It's
important for our security; it's important to help lay the foundations
for peace, and I want to hear your ideas. And I thought the report did
a good job of showing what is possible. Congress isn't going to accept
every recommendation in the report, and neither will the administration.
But there's a lot of very important things in the report that we ought
to seriously consider.
And as the Prime Minister talked about, there's three aspects to the
report. One is, how do we empower the Maliki government so that the
Maliki government -- the elected government of the Iraqis -- can help
with the economy, can help secure peace, can do hard work necessary to
achieve stability and to achieve the objective?
It talked about the regional -- the countries in the region, and the
responsibilities of the region to help this Iraqi government. And the
idea of having an international group is an interesting idea. We've
already got the compact, and I think the Baker-Hamilton report suggests
that we broaden the compact beyond just economic measures.
But one thing is for certain, when people-- if people come to the table
to discuss Iraq, they need to come understanding their responsibilities
to not fund terrorists, to help this young democracy survive, to help
with the economics of the country. And if people are not committed, if
Syria and Iran is not committed to that concept, then they shouldn't
bother to show up.
Thirdly, the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is important to have -- is
important to be solved. I'm committed to a two state solution. I
believe it is in Israel's interest and the Palestinian people's interest
to have two states living side by side for peace. And the Prime
Minister shares that goal. And he is willing to take time to go over
and help remove obstacles toward achieving that goal.
And there are two notable obstacles. One, one is the prisoner; and
secondly, is for there to be a unity government that recognizes the
principles of the Quartet, with which Israel can negotiate. And we want
to help.
And so I view this as a very important way forward, important concepts.
And the American people expect us to come up with a new strategy to
achieve the objective which I've been talking about and which is laid
out in the Baker-Hamilton report.
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: I think the analysis of the situation is not
really in dispute. The question is, how do we find the right way
forward? And what we've got at the moment is something that is at one
level very simple to describe, but at another level very profound and
difficult to deal with -- and that is that the outside extremists are
linking up with internal extremists, basically to create the
circumstances of sectarianism, where it's very, very difficult then for
democracy and ordinary institutions to function.
And I think the Baker-Hamilton report allows us to, as the situation has
evolved in Iraq, to evolve our strategy in order to meet it in the ways
that I've just described. But I think we've got to be very, very clear
about this: It will require everybody to face up to their
responsibilities. Us, of course, because we are principal actors in
this; but also the Iraqi government, they've got to be prepared to make
the moves necessary -- full governance, full capability, reconciliation
and full help and security -- and we will be there to support them.
But then there are responsibilities, as the President was saying a
moment or two ago, on the region and the neighbors. And let me come
directly to the Iran and Syria point. The issue for me is not a
question of being unwilling to sit down with people or not, but the
basis upon which we discuss Iraq has got to be clear and it's got to be
a basis where we are all standing up for the right principles, which are
now endorsed in the United Nations resolutions, in respect of Iraq. In
other words, you support the democratic elected government; you do not
support sectarians and you do not support, arm or finance terrorists.
Now, the very reason we have problems in parts of Iraq -- and we know
this very well down in the south of Iraq -- is that Iran, for example,
has been doing that, has been basically arming, financing, supporting
terrorism. So we've got to be clear the basis upon which we take this
forward. And as I say, it's got to be clear the basis upon which we
take this forward. And as I say, it's got to be on the basis of people
accepting their responsibilities.
And finally, in relation to what the President was just saying a moment
or two ago on Israel and Palestine, I think that one thing that is very
clear is that the old Middle East had within it the origins of all the
problems we see. I mean, this terrorist problem that we faced in the
last few years, it didn't originate, I'm afraid, a few years ago. It's
been building up over decades. It's come out of a series of states of
oppression, of warped ideology, based on a perverted view of the faith
of Islam. This has been building up for a long period of time. And it
has basically come out of the Middle East.
Now, my view in the end is that you go back to the origins of this and
say, well, how do we resolve it? And the only way we resolve it is by
having the right vision and then the practical measures to achieve it.
Now, I think the vision is absolutely correct. What we've got to do now
-- and this is exactly why the President was talking about the way
forward -- is that we've got to get the right way forward -- this is
where Baker-Hamilton helped -- in order that we have the practical
policy that bolsters and gives effect to the vision, because the vision
is the right vision. You leave a Middle East in which the
Israel-Palestine issue is not solved, in which there's no moves towards
democracy, in which Iraq goes back in its old state, in which the
Iranian people have no chance to express themselves, maybe not in the
months or one year, two years, but you'll have the same problem. You
know, the reason we are faced with this issue is because in the end,
everything that happened in that region erupted, in fact, on the streets
of New York. But it -- the origins of this went way, way back before
that.
And so it is -- there's a tendency I think sometimes to see this as a
battle between the idealists on the one hand and the realists on the
other. In my view, the only modern form of realism is one that has
ideals at the center of it.
Q Mr. President, the Iraq Study Group described the situation in Iraq
as grave and deteriorating. You said that the increase in attacks is
unsettling. That won't convince many people that you're still in denial
about how bad things are in Iraq, and question your sincerity about
changing course.
PRESIDENT BUSH: It's bad in Iraq. Does that help? (Laughter.)
Q Why did it take others to say it before you've been willing to
acknowledge for the world --
PRESIDENT BUSH: In all due respect, I've been saying it a lot. I
understand how tough it is. And I've been telling the American people
how tough it is. And they know how tough it is. And the fundamental
question is, do we have a plan to achieve our objective. Are we willing
to change as the enemy has changed? And what the Baker-Hamilton study
has done is it shows good ideas as to how to go forward. What our
Pentagon is doing is figuring out ways to go forward, all aiming to
achieve our objective.
Make no mistake about it, I understand how tough it is, sir. I talk to
families who die. I understand there's sectarian violence. I also
understand that we're hunting down al Qaeda on a regular basis and we're
bringing them to justice. I understand how hard our troops are working.
I know how brave the men and women who wear the uniform are, and
therefore, they'll have the full support of this government. I
understand what long deployments mean to wives and husbands, and mothers
and fathers, particularly as we come into a holiday season. I
understand. And I have made it abundantly clear how tough it is.
I also believe we're going to succeed. I believe we'll prevail. Not
only do I know how important it is to prevail, I believe we will
prevail. I understand how hard it is to prevail. But I also want the
American people to understand that if we were to fail -- and one way to
assure failure is just to quit, is not to adjust, and say it's just not
worth it -- if we were to fail, that failed policy will come to hurt
generations of Americans in the future.
And as I said in my opening statement, I believe we're in an ideological
struggle between forces that are reasonable and want to live in peace,
and radicals and extremists. And when you throw into the mix radical
Shia and radical Sunni trying to gain power and topple moderate
governments, with energy which they could use to blackmail Great Britain
or America, or anybody else who doesn't kowtow to them, and a nuclear
weapon in the hands of a government that is -- would be using that
nuclear weapon to blackmail to achieve political objectives --
historians will look back and say, how come Bush and Blair couldn't see
the threat? That's what they'll be asking. And I want to tell you, I
see the threat and I believe it is up to our governments to help lead
the forces of moderation to prevail. It's in our interests.
And one of the things that has changed for American foreign policy is a
threat overseas can now come home to hurt us, and September the 11th
should be a wake-up call for the American people to understand what
happens if there is violence and safe havens in a part of the world.
And what happens is people can die here at home.
So, no, I appreciate your question. As you can tell, I feel strongly
about making sure you understand that I understand it's tough. But I
want you to know, sir, that I believe we'll prevail. I know we have to
adjust to prevail, but I wouldn't have our troops in harm's way if I
didn't believe that, one, it was important, and, two, we'll succeed.
Thank you.
Q Prime Minister, if I may, briefly --
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: You're not going to do a follow up, are you?
(Laughter.)
Q No, no, forgive me. I just wanted to ask you about your Middle
East mission, if I may. Given your trip to the Middle East, isn't the
truth of what the Arab-Israeli solution -- sorry, isn't the truth of
what the Arab-Israeli problem requires is not, however hard you try,
another visit by a British Prime Minister, but the genuine commitment --
and not merely in words -- of an American administration that's serious
about doing something about it?
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: Well, I believe that we have that commitment. I
mean, you're right in this sense, there would be no point in me going
unless it was part of a mission that was supported fully by our American
allies. But it is -- we agree -- the vision -- I mean, the one thing
that I find very frustrating about the situation, Israel-Palestine, is
that there is actually an agreement as to the solution we want to see,
which is a two- state solution. And, really, everybody is agreed to
that. So the question is how do you get there?
And there are critical obstacles that stand in the way of that that
require detailed attention and management, and it's not merely myself
who's going to be engaged in this, of course, but as you know, the
Secretary of State has been very closely involved in this. She's been
visiting the region recently, and I know is, again, fully committed to
it.
I think what is interesting from what you have from this today is an
acceptance and, indeed, a clear belief that you look at these issues
together. And there is a -- there is a kind of whole vision about how
we need to proceed that links what happens inside Iraq with what happens
outside Iraq. And again, I think that the Baker-Hamilton report put
this very simply and very clearly.
You know, there is -- there is no way that you ever succeed in these
things unless you just carry on trying, and that's what we will do. And
one of the things I learned in all the long years that you followed me
in relation to Northern Ireland is that you just -- you don't accept
that you ever give up. You just carry on doing it. And I am sure that
it is possible to resolve this, and I also do believe that if we do,
then it would -- it would send a signal of massive symbolic power across
the world.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Steve.
Q Thank you, sir. You mentioned Iran and Syria as part of this
regional effort. Are you willing to engage with them directly as the
report -- as the report recommends? And back to the issue of the
troops, is it possible to get them out of Iraq by early 2008, as the
report talks about? And when do you hope to have this report? Sorry to
--
PRESIDENT BUSH: How many questions do you got, Steve?
Q Sorry about that. (Laughter.)
PRESIDENT BUSH: You mean, when -- when do I hope to announce the
strategy, is that what you're talking about? After I get the reports.
And Baker-Hamilton is a really important part of our considerations.
But we want to make sure the military gets their point of view in.
After all, a lot of what we're doing is a military operation. I want to
make sure the State Department is able to help us analyze the strategy
to make sure that we've got the right political emphasis, not only
inside Iraq but outside Iraq.
I appreciate the Prime Minister's answer to this lad -- we call them
lads, in Great Britain -- lad's question, is that --(laughter.)
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: You've made a friend, I think, there.
(Laughter.) It's a long time since anyone's called him that.
(Laughter.)
PRESIDENT BUSH: You got to understand -- well --
Q He calls me a number of other things.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Our Secretary of State is very much engaged in this
issue. She works hard on the issue. And as much as we'd like to impose
the settlement, it's important for you to understand, sir, that the
Israelis and the Palestinians must accept responsibility and must sign
off on an agreement. It's kind of easy to sit back and say, okay, we're
going to impose this on them. We can help, and we will help.
So Steve, that's -- we're spending a lot -- I know, I'm heading back.
We're spending a lot of time considering the new course, because the
decisions that we make affect lives. They affect the lives of our
soldiers, they affect the lives of the Iraqi people. But one thing is
central to this new course, and that is the Iraqi government must be
given more responsibility so they can prove to their people and to their
allies that they're capable of making hard decisions necessary for their
young democracy to move forward.
Second part of your long question?
Q Well, are you willing to engage direct talks with --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Oh, Iran and Syria.
Q -- just a regional effort --
PRESIDENT BUSH: No, no, I understand. Steve, let me talk about
engaging Iran. We have made it clear to the Iranians
that there is a possible change in U.S. policy, a policy that's been in
place for 27 years, and that is that if they would like to engage the
United States, that they've got to verifiably suspend their enrichment
program. We've made our choice. Iran now has an opportunity to make
its choice. I would hope they would make the choice that most of the
free world wants them to make, which is there is no need to have a
weapons program; there is no need to isolate your people; there's no
need to continue this obstinance when it comes to your stated desires to
have a nuclear weapon. It's not in your interest to do so.
And should they agree to verifiably suspend their enrichment, the United
States will be at the table with our partners.
It's really interesting to talk about conversations with countries --
which is fine; I can understand why people speculate about it -- but
there should be no mistake in anybody's mind, these countries understand
our position. They know what's expected of them.
There is -- if we were to have a conversation, it would be this one, to
Syria: Stop destabilizing the Siniora government. We believe that the
Siniora government should be supported, not weakened. Stop allowing
money and arms to cross your border into Iraq. Don't provide safe haven
for terrorist groups. We've made that position very clear.
And the truth of the matter is, is that these countries have now got the
choice to make. If they want to sit down at the table with the United
States, it's easy -- just make some decisions that will lead to peace,
not to conflict.
Is that the third part of your question? You've got to stop these long
questions, Steven. Steven.
Q Combat troops out by early 2008, is that --
PRESIDENT BUSH: One of the things the report did mention, and I think
you've said it in your comment, if conditions so allow. And we want our
combat troops out as quick as possible. We want the Iraqis taking the
fight. But it's very important to be -- as we design programs, to be
flexible and realistic. And as the report said -- I don't -- got the
exact words, but it was along the lines of depending upon conditions, I
believe is what the qualifier was. And I thought that made a lot of
sense. I've always said we'd like our troops out as fast as possible.
I think that's an important goal.
On the other hand, our commanders will be making recommendations based
upon whether or not we're achieving our stated objective. And the
objective, I repeat, is a government which can sustain, govern, and
defend itself -- free government of Iraq that can do that -- and will be
an ally in this movement -- against this movement that is threatening
peace and stability. And it's real.
I like to remind people it's akin to the Cold War in many ways. There's an ideological clash going on. And the question is, will we have the resolve and the confidence in liberty to prevail? That's really the
fundamental question facing -- it's not going to face this government or this government, because we made up our mind. We've made that part clear. But it will face future governments. There will be future
opportunities for people to say, well, it's not worth it, let's just retreat. I would strongly advise a government not to accept that position because of the dangers inherent with isolationism and retreat.
Q I'll try to be succinct. Mr. President, two years ago you said
that you were ready to expend political capital on the
Israel-Palestinian situation. With hindsight, do you think you've
fulfilled that intention? How closely do you see a linkage between what
happens in Israel-Palestine and a settlement in Iraq, achieving your
goals?
Prime Minister, given that you were so recently in the Middle East and
the situation hasn't exactly improved since then, is there anything
specific you're hoping to achieve next week when you go back?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Want me to start? I'm getting older, so you're going
to have to repeat the second part of your question. (Laughter.) Let me
answer the first part. What's important is for people to accept the
goal of two states living side-by-side for peace. And what has changed
in the Middle East is that Israel and Palestine -- at least the current
leadership of both countries, or both -- one entity and one country --
accept that goal. That's important.
To that end, the previous Prime Minister made a decision to unilaterally
withdraw from Gaza, which I felt was a good decision, which would
expedite the potential arrival of a state. And so to answer your
question, yes, we're spending a lot of capital getting people headed in
the same direction, which if you look at the history of the Middle East,
is a change.
Secondly, one of the reasons why there hasn't been instant success is
because radicals and extremists are trying to stop the advance of a
Palestinian state. Why? Because democracy is a defeat for them.
That's what I strongly believe. I find it interesting that when Prime
Minister Olmert reaches out to Palestinians to discuss a way forward on
the two state solution, Hezbollah attacks Israel. Why? Because
radicals and extremists can't stand the thought of a democracy. And one
of the great ironies is that people in the Middle East are working hard
to prevent people in the Middle East from realizing the blessings of a
free society in their democracy.
And so, no question progress has been spotty. But it's important for
people to understand one of the reasons why is, is because radicals are
trying to prevent it, and they're willing to kill innocent people to
prevent progress. Now, our goal is to help the Abbas government
strengthen its security forces, and we're doing that. Our goal is to
help the Abbas government form a government that adheres to the
principles of the Quartet. We can't abandon the principles of the
Quartet just because it may sound easy. You can't do that. When
nations lay out principles, you've got to adhere to those principles --
just like when we laid out a vision, you adhere to that vision.
And so the Prime Minister's visit, like Condi's visit recently to the
Middle East, are all aiming to help countries remove obstacles necessary
to achieve the vision. And it's hard work, but it's necessary work.
And so I do believe there is a -- I know there's a change of attitude.
And now the fundamental question is, can we help the moderates prevail?
And make no mistake about it, radicals and extremists will kill in order
to stop the progress. And that's what's difficult. But it should be a
signal to those of us who have got the comfort of liberty to understand
the consequences of this ideological struggle we're fighting. One of
the consequences is denial of a Palestinian state.
This is ironic, isn't it -- I think it is, and it's sad.
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: I think, first of all, it's important to
understand how much has begun, how much work there's been. I mean, I
know I've had many, many meetings on this issue over the past few
months. I know Secretary Rice has been immensely active on it over
these past months, as well. Now, some of that is visible and out there
at press conferences and meetings, and a lot of it is behind the scenes.
But in essence, what we've got to do is to try to resolve two issues.
First of all, we need to get the release of Corporal Shalit, which, as
Prime Minister Olmert made clear the other day, would then allow the
release of many Palestinian prisoners, as well. And this is obviously a
very important issue.
But then, secondly, and this is, I think, really -- one of the core
questions is, we are prepared to release the money to the Palestinian
Authority. We are prepared to take the peace process forward and get
into a process of negotiation. But we need a government on both sides
that is committed to the basic principles of that negotiation. And at
the present time, we are not able to achieve a national unity government
on the Palestinian side. And the reason for that is that we are saying,
not as a matter of dogma at all, but you can't have a government that
everyone can deal with, and you can then negotiate a peace between
Israel and Palestine, unless it's on the basis that everyone accepts the
other's right to exist. So that's the difficulty. It's not a kind of
technical point, it's absolutely at the heart of it.
Now, what we have got to do is to find either a way of unlocking the
problem of forming that national unity government on the principles laid
down by the United Nations, as well as the rest of the Quartet, or
alternatively, a different way forward, but whatever way forward will
have to be on the basis you get an empowered Palestinian government with
whom everyone can negotiate and deal with.
Now, you know, again, it's a very, very obvious thing. It's not just
for the Israelis and the Palestinians, but also for the whole of the
region. You know, you can't negotiate this unless everyone accepts the
basic principles of the negotiation. But if people were to do that, and
after all, we're only asking people to accept the position that the
United Nations, and really, the whole of the international community,
you could move this forward quickly. I mean, I don't think there's any
doubt at all that if you could get an empowered Palestinian government
able to negotiate -- Israel has made it clear it is prepared to
negotiate.
I'm not saying there aren't very tricky issues. There are things like
Jerusalem, the right of return, which are very, very difficult. But
actually, it's not beyond our wit to put it together. We could put it
together. But you need to get these initial steps taken.
Now what I'm wont to do when I go out there is just explore what is the
way that we get that ability to get the negotiation underway, trying to
work round these obstacles. And it's something -- we were talking about
Iran and Syria moments ago, it's something all of those countries could
help with if they wanted to help with it. So I kind of feel one thing
that is important is that everyone understands that there's no shortage
of willingness, energy, commitment on our side.
And believe me, I've thought about this with the President many, many
times, and I don't believe there's any shortage of those qualities on
his part at all. But we need to get this -- we need to get the door
unlocked because it's kind of barred at the moment. It needs to be
opened. And that's the task, I think, for the next period.
PRESIDENT BUSH: L.A. Times Man.
Q Mr. President, you have said that you have the Baker-Hamilton
report, you also have the -- you're waiting to hear from the Pentagon,
you're waiting to hear from the State Department. This report was
prepared by a bipartisan group, the only one you'll get. Secretary
Baker has a special relationship with the family. Should this report
not get extra consideration? Does it not carry more weight than any of
the others?
PRESIDENT BUSH: That's an interesting question. It's certainly an
important part of our deliberations, and it was certainly an important
part of our discussions this morning. Some reports are issued and just
gather dust. And truth of the matter is, a lot of reports in Washington
are never read by anybody.
To show you how important this one is, I read it, and our guest read it.
The Prime Minister read -- read a report prepared by a commission. And
this is important. And there are some -- I don't think Jim Baker and
Lee Hamilton expect us to accept every recommendation. I expect them --
I think -- I know they expect us to consider every recommendation, Jim.
We ought to pay close attention to what they advise. And I told them
yesterday at our meeting that we would pay close attention, and would
seriously consider every recommendation. We've discussed some of their
recommendations here at this press conference. And we are -- we will
spend a lot of time on it.
And I -- and so you ask its relative importance. I'd call it a very
important report, and a very important part of our working to a new
approach, a new way forward in Iraq.
And I can't -- I really do thank those citizens for taking time out of
busy lives to spend time helping us look at different options. These
are distinguished souls; they got plenty to do. They're busy people,
and yet they took nine months out and they talked to a lot of people.
They went to Iraq, they thought about it a lot, and it was a very
considerate, important report. And I will take the recommendations very
seriously.
Q Mr. President, the Iraq Study Group said that leaders must be
candid and forthright with people. So let me test that. Are you
capable of admitting your failures in the past, and perhaps much more
importantly, are you capable of changing course, perhaps in the next few
weeks?
PRESIDENT BUSH: I think you're probably going to have to pay attention
to my speech coming up here when I get all the recommendations in, and
you can answer that question, yourself. I do know that we have not
succeeded as fast as we wanted to succeed. I do understand that
progress is not as rapid as I had hoped. And therefore, it makes sense
to analyze the situation and to devise a set of tactics and strategies
to achieve the objective that I have stated.
And so if the present situation needs to be changed, it follows that
we'll change it if we want to succeed. What's really interesting is the
battle has changed in Iraq from the rejectionists and former Baathists
and definitely foreign fighters who have entered the country that were
trying to destabilize the new government to one that Mr. Zarqawi stated
clearly -- he said, look, let's kill Shia in order to create enough
chaos and confusion and doubt of the government, and set off a sectarian
battle. And he succeeded in that extent. He didn't succeed at avoiding
us, but he did succeed at starting off sectarian strife. And now the
fundamental question is, what strategy is necessary to deal with this
type of violence?
We'll continue after al Qaeda. Al Qaeda will not have safe haven in
Iraq. And that's important for the American people to know. We've got
special operators, we've got better intelligence. And al Qaeda is
effective at these spectacular bombings, and we'll chase them down, and
we are, along with the Iraqis. The strategy now is how to make sure
that we've got the security situation in place such that the Iraqi
government is capable of dealing with the sectarian violence, as well as
the political and economic strategies, as well.
So, yes, I think you'll see something differently, because it's a
practical answer to a situation on the ground that's not the way we like
it. You wanted frankness -- I thought we would succeed quicker than we
did, and I am disappointed by the pace of success.
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: Look, there isn't any -- as I said a moment or
two ago, there isn't any doubt about how tough this is. It's hugely
challenging. But what the report did not say is that we should just get
out and leave it. What it did say is that it's immensely important that
we succeed.
Now, the question is, therefore, how do we do it? And in that regard, I
think the report is practical, it's clear, and it offers also the way of
bringing people together.
The other thing that we want to do, because this is part of succeeding
in this mission, is actually to make people understand that this is
something where you've got to try and bring people together around a set
of common objectives and a practical set of methods to achieve those
objectives.
The issues that the report raises -- I mean, these aren't issues that,
obviously, no one has ever thought of; these aren't issues that haven't
been part of the continual discussion and debate and iteration within
the coalition and, indeed, between us and the Iraqi government. But
those essential elements we want to make sure, in the light of the
changing situation that there is there, that, one, we have the Iraqi
government able to operate effectively, but in a non-sectarian way,
because that's what we began with. Secondly, that we make sure that
everyone in the region is supporting that. And, thirdly, that we set
this within the context of a broader vision for the Middle East, not
least in respect of Israel and Palestine.
Now, in respect of the elements of that strategy, this report gives us a
basis on which we can move forward -- but we've obviously then got to
look at the practical measures that are necessary in order to give
effect to those elements. And that's what we'll do. And I think that,
you know, the one thing that no one who is dealing with this on a day to
day basis has any doubt about is how tough it is. But the question is
how we make sure that we overcome those tough conditions and succeed,
because the need to succeed is so huge.
Q Prime Minister, just a brief supplementary -- sorry, I didn't get
to ask you the question. You promised some time -- I'm sorry.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Look, I agree, this is a total violation of --
(laughter.) Our press corps is calling you down, man. I mean, there
you are -- no, go ahead. (Laughter.)
Q You're encouraging it.
PRESIDENT BUSH: I'm not encouraging it. You're not a member of the
American press, it's the Prime Minister. (Laughter.)
Q He's my guy. (Laughter.)
Q Only because you cut me off, Mr. President --
PRESS: Ohhhhh! (Laughter.)
PRESIDENT BUSH: Okay. (Laughter.)
Q Prime Minister, you promised the British military whatever it takes
to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan, but the former head of the British
Army says the British military is not being funded properly for the job
it's being asked to do. Do you accept that?
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: We get from our military advice as to what they
need and we do our level best to meet it. I mean, we'll -- I haven't
actually read Mike Jackson's comments. I think it's Mike's speech
you're talking about. And let me tell you he's someone I have enormous
amount of respect for, and did a fantastic job when he was chief of our
staff.
But in relation to this, we've worked closely with the military the
whole time. It's important we carry on doing it. And I've simply made
the point that in the last few years, and not least yesterday in the
pre-budget report of the chancellor, we gave another significant
increase in funding. But it's important we do this. This is a mission
which it is -- because it's important that we succeed, it's important
that we equip our armed forces properly. But I've got nothing -- if
you'll forgive me, I've not got anything to comment on in detail until
I've actually read the speech that he made. Not that -- I'm not saying
you wouldn't give me a fair resume of it. (Laughter.)
PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you.
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: Okay.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Good job.
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